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09/21/2001 Archived Entry: "A conversation"

Session Start (chat.hosting4u.net:#culture): Thu Sep 20 15:01:50 2001

* Now talking in #culture.
* Users on #culture: Vavatch PaulM MartinM @Rich Vetere
* Topic of #culture: If there is a God, I know he likes to rock
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MartinM: Weren't you destroyed?

Vavatch: In a way

MartinM: Is this one of those Mind things that you end up saying is too complex for me to understand?

Vavatch: Yes

PaulM: The One = that level of alcohol consumption where you are at your witty and pleasant best.

PaulM: 0 is sober, 2 is comatose. 1.0 is juuuuust perfect.

MartinM: Ah yes. It comes back to me now.

Vavatch: Is that a subjective or objective wittiness and pleasantness?

PaulM: Both? ;-) It varies with the social occasion.

PaulM: 1.0 with the boss is probably 0.5 with your mates down the pub.

Vavatch: Indeed

PaulM: I would need to hit at least 1.8 before I dressed up as a large strawberry though... ;-)

Vavatch: Meh, I needed the money :)

MartinM: 2.0 would still be similar to 1.8, which suggests that you only need a small amount of alcohol to start with. If you have too much then you might as well keep drinking because it would take a lot to make much of a difference.

PaulM: It just reminded me of when my brother dressed up as Tony the Tiger (the Frosted Flakes character) in a parade. He was also harassed by kids.

Vavatch: It strikes me that attaining 1.0 is like sitting on the top of a very slippery sphere - a bit like a false stability, it's too easy to go one way or the other

MartinM: How about you take drugs that make you ill if you drink too much and then break an arm, so that you need to drink to kill the pain. You just need the right balance of drugs and pain.

MartinM: Too far either way and want to head back to the 1.0 zone.

PaulM: It takes a grand master to attain The One. Practice is required.

Vavatch: I fear that the drug solution may be too powerful for most

Vavatch: I think that the problem is, even in a given situation with the same people, the value of 1.0 will fluctuate according to what you want to do. It's more than a poor drinker can manage.

PaulM: The One moves in mysterious ways...

* Vavatch nods sagely

PaulM: So lets chase it! Woooooh!

Vavatch: Why did we start talking about The One?

* PaulM breaks out the vodka

MartinM: So you just stab a fork into yourself whenever you need to adjust the setting.

Vavatch: What, to see if you're done?

PaulM: We started talking about The One because Martin dissected an eyeball. Obvious really.

Vavatch: I think you've already gone past The One

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Two things have become clear to me: one, that the Culture list is the repository of all past, present and future knowledge, and two, that attaining The One is a goal not to be trifled with.